hi, just noticed that when using RADSEC, the usual 'radiusd -X' is no longer valid /etc/raddb/sites-enabled/tls[7]: Threading must be enabled for TLS sockets to function properly. /etc/raddb/sites-enabled/tls[7]: You probably need to do 'radiusd -fxx -l stdout' for debugging doing as the debug says works fine, of course :-) alan