non-standard authentication

Gary Gatten Ggatten at waddell.com
Thu Feb 24 00:32:21 CET 2011


Again, no expert here, but as I understand it you simply "plugin" your auth process/module (Travis_Auth) to an existing FR Auth method.  Travis_Auth does whatever logic you wish and returns Accept, Reject, OK, whatever - I'm not sure what the return option are or NEED to be.

In your case I THINK you'd mess with the eap.conf and / or inner-tunnel.  Those are setup to handle anything that uses EAP stuff, which I assume your WPA2 gear will use?

We use the "WPA2-Enterprise" for our Aruba wireless, and it uses NTLM_AUTH as the backend auth method.  Works good so far.  Some day I'll get it integrated with LDAP for DVLANs, HOPEFULLY....

G


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From: freeradius-users-bounces+ggatten=waddell.com at lists.freeradius.org [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+ggatten=waddell.com at lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Travis Dimmig
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:49 PM
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
Subject: RE: non-standard authentication

I mixed up some terms between freeRadius and JRadius (my first attempt to accomplish this used rlm_jradius).  The term 'listener' is specific to what I was trying to accomplish with JRadius.  I also neglected to mention the important fact that I need to accomplish authentication specifically for WPA2, but without using ntlm_auth etc.  I basically want the ability to say "yes" or "no" to a WPA2 user based on rules that I define, hence my looking at rlm_perl and rlm_jradius, both let me write something of my own.  However, to use either of those with WPA2, I imagine I have to follow the 4-way handshake properly, or the supplicant will bark?

I realize that this is stepping a bit outside the realm of just freeRadius, but if anyone has information it would be extremely helpful.
	
-Travis

From: freeradius-users-bounces+tdimmig=impulse.com at lists.freeradius.org [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+tdimmig=impulse.com at lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Gary Gatten
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:24 PM
To: 'FreeRadius users mailing list'
Subject: RE: non-standard authentication

I'm CERTAINLY no expert in this, but I can hopefully point you in the right direction.

There is some doc within the FR install (and the Wiki I think) about writing your own "modules" - I think this is what you want.  Although, I think you can do pretty much anything with rlm_perl and unlang, but nonetheless - yes, you can write your own auth module.  I don't thik it would be a separate "listener", but just another module FR uses to auth RADIUS requests.  Ie:  instead of FR using RLM_LDAP, EAP, unix, ntlm_auth, etc. - it would use "Travis_Auth".

Not sure if that helps.  If you can't find doc on "modules" LMK and I'll see if I can track it down for you.  From what I remember it's not rocket science, but not trivial either.

G

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From: freeradius-users-bounces+ggatten=waddell.com at lists.freeradius.org [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+ggatten=waddell.com at lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Travis Dimmig
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 2:56 PM
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
Subject: non-standard authentication

I have a problem scenario where I need to be able to handle the authentication of users myself.  I am looking into using either rlm_perl or (preferably) rlm_jradius to be able to write my own piece to do authentication.  I believe this is possible with either module (please correct me if I'm wrong on that, it would stop me in my tracks).  What I need to know is if when writing my own authenticator there is a terribly complicated process of requests and responses that I have to honor in order to make the supplicant happy, or if I can trivially accept or reject based on the parameters of my business problem.  As a test case, I wrote a Java class for rlm_jradius that just replaced reject packets with accept packets, to see if it would work.  I found that if I hooked into it at the 'post_auth' stage it didn't matter what my reply was, freeRadius remembered that auth had failed and stripped all the attributes from the response packet.

That was long winded, here is a summary of my questions.  Can I write my own piece to do authentication?  Where in the freeRadius process do I list that listener?  Is there a series of requests and responses that I have to honor?

-Travis

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