Question about EAP-TTLS session resumption

stefan.paetow at diamond.ac.uk stefan.paetow at diamond.ac.uk
Mon Apr 29 15:23:56 CEST 2013


Alan, 

The user 'bob' does not exist, so FreeRADIUS does the correct thing (i.e. rejecting the user). This has not been in doubt at all.

However, when you go to the bottom of the output, where the request for user 'steve' (who is a valid user, and for whom a correct password was supplied) is sent, the request fails. The session for 'steve' is partial and stops prematurely, which leads me to believe that the EAP-TTLS client (the JRadius EAPTTLSAuthenticator bean) is not complying with the RFC, i.e. restart the EAP session, negotiate a fresh tunnel, and then attempt to authenticate the valid user 'steve' with the given password.

Based on the debug output, it appears that the client simply re-uses the existing tunnel, which, according to the RFC and your confirmation, is not correct. So thanks for confirming that part of the theory. :-)

To prove that, I've just had a bit more of a play-around with the Java webapp, and when we restart it between authentication requests, the correct process is followed, i.e. establish an EAP session, negotiate a tunnel, attempt authentication, and every session is complete. I'll have a word with David over at Coova about the bean in question.

Regards

Stefan



-----Original Message-----
From: freeradius-users-bounces+stefan.paetow=diamond.ac.uk at lists.freeradius.org [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+stefan.paetow=diamond.ac.uk at lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Alan DeKok
Sent: 29 April 2013 14:08
To: FreeRadius users mailing list
Subject: Re: Question about EAP-TTLS session resumption

stefan.paetow at diamond.ac.uk wrote:
> We're trying to put together an EAP-TTLS authentication solution with another open-source authentication server (Jasig CAS). We've found that only the first authentication process succeeds, but everything else after fails. In order for us to pinpoint whether this is a problem in the CAS software or the JRadius implementation of the EAP-TTLS Radius authenticator, I'd just like to confirm with the Radius experts on the list that I have some things right.

  Well, TTLS session resumption works with wpa_supplicant, Windows, Macs, etc.

> As far as I understand RFC5281 (the EAP-TTLS RFC) in general and Section 15.3 (session resumption) more in particular, the EAP-TTLS session should only be resumed if the client was successfully authenticated with the server. So am I correct in saying that if an EAP-TTLS session was established and a username and password were passed through the tunnel that were not successfully authenticated (i.e. the password was incorrect), the session cannot be resumed and should start again, i.e. a new tunnel session should be negotiated and the authentication request retried?

  Yes.

> What we've seen is that the radiusd -X output shows a full EAP-TTLS session negotiation the first time, but then only a resumption (or at least that's what FreeRADIUS assumes, based on the debug output) of the session to continue. FreeRADIUS then sees the EAP handler fail. 

  It sees more than that.  There's no point in reading only *one* message out of many.  The reason the other debug messages exist is because they're *useful*.

> Should that session (i.e. 'request 7 ID 9') have been renegotiated and restarted because the user-password combination of 'bob' and 'test' is invalid? 

  The debug log *doesn't* show session resumption.  If it did, it would have text about "session resumption".

> -- begin of debug output --

  Which shows that the inner-tunnel configuration is incapable of authenticating a user "bob" with password "test".

  This has nothing to do with session resumption.  Your inner-tunnel configuration is wrong.  You haven't configured a "known good" password for the user.

  So.... how is the server supposed to check that "bob/test" is a valid user/password?

  Alan DeKok.
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