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[Martin Edge]

Understood, I deal with transactional developers every day. I feel your pain.

I’ve engaged with you directly - list doesn’t need noise.

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 12:28 AM, Alan DeKok <aland at deployingradius.com> wrote:
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>> On Jun 26, 2018, at 10:19 AM, Martin Edge <medge at emersion.com> wrote:
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>> Alan,
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>> I have been on the list awhile now - and politely I do find you a little abrasive,
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>  Sure.  That's largely due to 20 years of messages like "Read the docs.  Yes, I really meant read the docs.  No, don't do anything else.  Did you read the docs?"
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>  <sigh>
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>  This list isn't for coddling people or making friends.  It's for solving technical problems.  That means technical answers to technical questions.
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>  People who don't ask technical questions, and who don't follow technical answers are a problem.
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>> i do appreciate and understand why you take the route you do. It in most cases helps direct those to think for themselves.
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>  Yup.  As I've said repeatedly, I'm not going to cut & paste answers from the documentation.  That isn't rude.  It's practical.
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>> Honestly after yesterday’s traffic I considered contacting you directly to understand why you take the heavy hand, but hey it’s your list, not for me to judge. 
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>  The first few messages from me are always polite and helpful.  After about 5 rounds of "no, READ THE DOCS", I get a little more short with people.
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>  That isn't going to change.
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>> I did feel the same when you helped (?) me, but hey I figured it out and my problem was solved.
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>  I don't want to hurt peoples feelings.  But...
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>  Good IT people should be able to put their ego aside when reading the docs or when asking questions.  When I ask questions on another list, I'm sure to ask *good* questions, and to *read the docs* they tell me to read.
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>  And funny enough, that usually means I solve the problem.
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>> If you are ever in Australia- would love to catch up to meet you in person,
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>  No fixed plans, but who knows?
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>  Alan DeKok.
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