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[Yu Wang]

Please see my other post. The pam module in question is pam_unix.so.

Yu

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From: Freeradius-Users [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+ywang10=fsu.edu at lists.freeradius.org] On Behalf Of Hailun Tan
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:57 PM
To: FreeRadius users mailing list <freeradius-users at lists.freeradius.org>
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On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:24 AM, Alan DeKok <aland at deployingradius.com>
wrote:

> On Jun 25, 2018, at 9:09 PM, Hailun Tan <dearambermini at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I do not think the answer in the previous link was clear.
>
>   It doesn't explain *why* PAM works the way it does.  But it explains 
> what's happening, and how to fix it.
>
>   PAM problems?  Ask the PAM people
>
> > The only viable solution in the link above is that having another 
> > local user  with the same name then it will fix the problem. Yes, it 
> > does fix
> the
> > problem. But what is the point to have radius server if  a local 
> > user is required  for radius to work?
>
>   The point is that you can specify a users password (or OTP) via RADIUS.
>
>   If you read the PAM documentation, it says that PAM doesn't supply 
> UID, GID, shell, home directory, etc.  PAM only does username / 
> password checking.  And some session logging.
>
> >  Considering that there are thousands of radius clients to hookup 
> > with one radius server, having a local user for each of these 
> > clients for such user to work does not make sense.
>
>   That's what LDAP is for.  Put the users into LDAP.  Configure NSS && 
> LDAP.  That gets you UID, GID, etc.  Then do username / password 
> checking via RADIUS.
>

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I am new in the Radius  concept. So  the users in Radius server cannot be processed as those in LDAP because the users in Radius are not configured with UID/GID, etc? On the other hand, Radius cannot completely take the role of LDAP?

So i wonder if PAM is not used for username/ password checking, in that case,  Does the UID/GID missing in Radius user matter? In that way, can Radius server replace LDAP?

Thanks again for your advice.





>
> > My question is very clear. If  pam_radius_auth.so is not the one to 
> > be fixed, which other pam module should be fixed?
>
>   As I said repeatedly, ask the PAM people how their software works.  
> This isn't the "PAM help list".  This is the FreeRADIUS list.
>
> > At least you can provide a
> > way for us to check which PAM module is failing so that we can check.
>
>   No.  It's ridiculous to ask that, because I didn't write PAM, and I 
> know nothing about it.
>
> > I
> > have even tried to disable ALL the pam module in /etc/pam.d/sshd 
> > except pam_radius_auth.so but I cannot even log in the ubuntu if i 
> > did that :(
> So
> > that is the most difficult part to troubleshoot with PAM.
>
>   That's terrible.
>
>   Why does that happen?  I don't know...
>
>   ASK THE PAM PEOPLE HOW THEIR SOFTWARE WORKS.
>
>   Alan DeKok.
>
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