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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is a tricky concept, but it can be done with a lot of effort.
Probably not for all applications ( since it doesn’t make any sense for some of
them ). Maybe you should consider making a real network DMZ. The concept of DMZ
allows you to define and allow/disallow access to services from the Internet
and those from the local LAN. You DO NOT make things or services available “to
the DMZ” !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Start simple !<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>E:S<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
freeradius-users-bounces+edvin.seferovic=kolp.at@lists.freeradius.org
[mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+edvin.seferovic=kolp.at@lists.freeradius.org] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jesse Stone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Samstag, 06. September 2008 01:50<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeRadius users mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Freeradius Usage<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thank you for the quick response. I may not have
mentioned this previously but I am by no means a linux/networking expert.
The company I work for is pro-MS. Recently, I got the urge to get back
into Linux and here I am. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My thinking (in regards to network structure) was that I
wanted applications intended to the public as far away from my local lan as
posible. The local lan requires the app server though- OpenVPN,
Samba (as a PDC), misc other things so I wanted it available to the local lan
but not to the DMZ.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>My main questions though are with Freeradius. My setup
is for "hobby" purposes only and already I would have difficulty
telling you exactly which users have access to what.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I want to using a technology like Freeradius or LDAP create
1 central place on the app server that EVERYTHING would authenication to.
In a perfect world, the end result would be that I could type something like
this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>select %user% from permissionsDB<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>and be returned something like this:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>SSH: NO, OpenVPN: YES, Samba: %Specific group% (which
indicates shares available), Shell Access: No, ect<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Basically, I want a setup where I can easilly scale upwards
without having to "teach" each new application how to use a DB.
Freeradious also can authenicate my wireless users when would also be great as
for all I know, half my bandwidth is being used by my neighbors.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>-Jesse<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Edvin Seferovic <<a
href="mailto:edvin.seferovic@kolp.at">edvin.seferovic@kolp.at</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>excuse me for
asking, but why dont you set up the AppServer in your DMZ ? you could have (
what I call ) the T – structure</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>>< ---
INTERNET --> GATEWAY ( server1 ) <---> LOCAL LAN</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
I</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
I DMZ</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
I</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
SERVER2 + APPServer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It depends how your
users use the gateway and how are they suppose to connect to the Internet. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>E:S</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> freeradius-users-bounces+edvin.seferovic=<a
href="http://kolp.at/" target="_blank">kolp.at</a>@<a
href="http://lists.freeradius.org/" target="_blank">lists.freeradius.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:freeradius-users-bounces%2Bedvin.seferovic"
target="_blank">freeradius-users-bounces+edvin.seferovic</a>=<a
href="http://kolp.at/" target="_blank">kolp.at</a>@<a
href="http://lists.freeradius.org/" target="_blank">lists.freeradius.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jesse Stone<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Samstag, 06. September 2008 01:25<br>
<b>To:</b> FreeRadius users mailing list<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Freeradius Usage</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I am new to this mailing list and am about to ask a probably very silly
question. Please feel free to direct me to resources that'll help me
answer them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I want to setup the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Gateway [server1]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> - nic1 = Internet<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> - nic2 = DMZ [server2]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> - nic3 = Router w/ Wireless ->
App Server [Server3] (FREERADIUS SERVER HERE) -> Local Lan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I read a lot about both Freeradius and LDAP and cannot determine if either
can accomplish my goals.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>What I want is:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>1) 1 central place where all user authenication takes
place: SSH, Shell Access, Samba, OpenVPN, Mumble, Any other app
that requires user administration.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>2) This information stored in a SQL type database so that I can build
my own custom apps to report on user usage, performance ect.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>3) My router has wireless and I have enabled the security
features. I would still like authenication to take place before a
wireless user is allowed on the network.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>For example, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Currently, I have this: Router w/ Wireless -> App Server [Server3] +
Local Lan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>I want this: Router w/ Wireless -> App Server [Server3] -> Local Lan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Is Freeradius the best approach for my needs? Do I need anything
else? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>-Jesse<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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