kill -9 doesn't want to play either?<br><br>Read the docs/debugging file. Compile FR with debugging/developer stuff and run it under gdbm control and do your killing of firebird again.<br><br>It's likely to be the PERL integration as thats what will get done in when firebird is restarted. Are you perl with threading?<br><br>Not sure why your going through hoops for firebird access, I'm sure there's a native module....<br><br>alan<br><br><br>