radius+ldap+peap

Arran Cudbard-Bell A.Cudbard-Bell at sussex.ac.uk
Fri May 18 16:19:53 CEST 2007


Alan DeKok wrote:
> Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
>>>>   use clear-text passwords in LDAP.  If you can't put clear-text
>>>> passwords in LDAP, stop trying to use PEAP.
>> NO ! Calculate the damn NT Hashes... Never put users clear-text 
>> passwords in LDAP if you can avoid it.
> 
>   Step 1: Get it to work.
>   Step 2: Get it to work better.

True...
But your encouraging people in bad habits !

It's like all the documentation i've seen telling people to *un-check* 
the validate certificate check box in windows xp supplicants ...

> 
>   Getting past step one involves configuring everything to remove as
> many variables as possible.
> 
>> The weak point is the nt4 hash as it has no salt... and there are known 
>> issues with md4, but it's still better than leaving everything in cleartext.
> 
>   For anyone who cares, 99.9% of NT hash'd passwords can be turned back
> into clear-text passwords with 5G of disk space, and a few minutes of work.

> 
>   The security added by NT hashed passwords is minimal.

Yes, but it stops the annoying student who acquires the manager 
credentials from the test documentation wiki which *someone* forgot to 
password protect, dumping everyones credentials out in plaintext...

It's hard to stop people who know what they're doing, but fortunately 
those people are in the minority....

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Arran Cudbard-Bell (A.Cudbard-Bell at sussex.ac.uk)
Authentication, Authorisation and Accounting Officer
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University Of Sussex, Brighton
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