RADDB 2.1.7 and /etc/shadow

[Alan DeKok]

sbchem wrote:
>>>  <shrug>  It's an error produces (sic) by the PAM subsystem.  Ask them
> what it means.
> 
> <Sigh> It turns out the error is caused by a typo in the radiusd file
> provided in /redhat/radiusd-pam, NOT by the pam subsystem.  In fact, the pam
> subsystem was merely reporting the error in the freeradius file.  The
> message "module not found" was because the radiusd-pam file was pointing to
> password.so NOT passwd.so

  OK.. so the error *was* being produced by the PAM subsystem, as I
said.  Investigating that subsystem found the problem, and the solution.

  And yes, the FreeRADIUS PAM file needs to be fixed.

>>> Blaming FreeRADIUS is the same as blaming Dell

  Selective editing does not help your cause.  The quote was:

>>  Blaming FreeRADIUS is the same as blaming Dell because the internet
>> is slow.

  The comparison to Dell was because as the computer manufacturer, they
get *enormous* numbers of complaints from inexperienced users, sating
things like "facebook is slow!"

  Similarly, a large number of questions on this list are things like
"how do I get the NAS to do X".  The answer is almost always "read the
NAS documentation".  Some people end up being offended by this.  I have
no idea why.

> Hmmm--rather defensive are we??? --Alan, no one is blaming anybody for
> anything....it was a simple and honest question that was also posted a few
> years ago and remained unanswered -- until now, by me as above.

  My response was a simple and honest one; If subsystem X is producing
an error message... you should really go investigate subsystem X.  The
answers will usually be found there.

  Is that so offensive?

>  However I
> do find it interesting that you compare the customer service you provided on
> this to that provided by Dell -- if the shoe fits..... 

  If you *intentionally* edit my comments so as to misrepresent them, it
shows the paucity of your arguments.

> I am part of a consortium of public and private universities and scientific
> research facilities

  Eduroam?

> and our internal listserv on radius frequently talks
> people off of freeradius solely because of the sarcastic and chip on the
> shoulder attitude of "some" of the developers.

  "Some"... but you're not naming names...

>  Quit being such a Mordac
> Alan, it scares the tourists and devalues the otherwise excellent work done
> by other people on this project.

  Implying that the only excellent work is done by *other* people, and
not me.

> You can ban me now for such a ghastly breach of etiquette.

  Sadly, I do no such thing, though it's clear you would in a similar
situation.

  You've taken a simple request to investigate the root cause of the
problem, and turned it into a personal attack on me.  And you're saying
*I* have a chip on my shoulder?  Please, don't pretend to have the moral
high ground here.

  Alan DeKok.