Enterprise Wi-Fi: improving user device security
stefan.winter at restena.lu
Mon Jan 6 08:51:45 CET 2020
>> Bespoke additions by Wi-Fi Alliance allow you as the admin to limit how
>> ignorant your users can be when connecting to your network. By including
>> a certain policy OID field in your server certificate, you can apply
>> validation policy directly at the supplicant level: if the user has not
>> properly configured the network with CA/servername/cert fingerprint,
>> then you can tell the supplicant to not even attempt the authentication,
>> and tell the user to get a proper configuration first. Only if the
>> configuration is sufficient to actually identify the server correctly
>> will the authentication be attempted.
> Two questions:
> * when will supplicant vendors implement this?
While the public availability of the final spec makes it rather apparent
that the *ability* to support this is as from now - read the spec and
write the code - , the timing for making this *required* is not public yet.
> * When will certificate authorities be upgraded to sign CSRs with these OIDs?
> Right now, CAs will sign certs only with limited OIDs. For example, they won't sign CSRs with the id-kp-eapOverLan OID defined in:
> The CAs also won't sign CSRs with NAIrealm fields as defined in RFC 7585. :(
> It might be too late for this rev of the specs, but it would also be useful for the server certificates to contain an NAIrealm field. That way supplicants can check that they are sending credentials for "user at example.com" to the server which has the certificate for "example.com".
I'll be buying popcorn and watch things evolve. Basically, this is an
entirely new type of certificate, i.e. a new "business unit". Here, CAs
don't sell webserver certs, they sell Wi-Fi EAP server certs. They are
also free of CA/B forum requirements here bevause it is not a browser
thing. I.e. validity beyond the two-year limit is possible here. Also,
since concepts like LetsEncrypt don't (currently) work well over the EAP
channel, they can try to make actual money with this.
It remains to be seen if and how quickly commercial CAs pick this up.
Until then, having one's own private CA for EAP purposes has just earned
a unique selling point not currently available with commercial CAs.
There is actually a big operational difference between the policy values
and the NAIRealm value: TOD Policies are fixed values. They don't need
vetting on the CA side. You express your wish to have this policy in
effect, they deliver a certificate which puts this policy into effect.
OTOH, with NAIRealm, you claim "I run a legitimate EAP server for the
NAI realm example.com". How does the CA vet this claim of yours? The EAP
channel is not publicly observable unless you are connecting to a
network secured with it. They'd need to set up an AP, connect to your
Wi-Fi infrastructure, attempt to authenticate, and then see where they
end up. An additional challenge-response system is then needed to bind
the person applying for the cert in their web interface to the
certificate/information in the EAP channel. All of these steps don't
exist today and are somewhat hard to solve. Not impossible, just hard.
The policies come without these additional complexities, so are a more
low-hanging fruit. Not that I don't want to reach the high-hanging ones,
too, but I'm happy that we now have ripe low-hanging fruit to start with.
>> This comes in two flavours
>> a) "Trust Override Disabled - Strict": There are no exceptions. Have a
>> proper configuration, or the supplicant won't try to authenticate you.
>> b) "Trust Override Disabled- Trust On First Use": If this is the very
>> first time you connect to a network, and the configuration is
>> insufficient, take the incoming server certificate, ask user to confirm
>> that this is okay, and take that one as the one trusted certificate. If
>> the certificate changes at any point in the future, the supplicant will
>> not ask the user again; it will unconditionally stop the authentication
>> attempt prior to sending username/password.
> A related question is how does the supplicant know to trust the server certificate? Sure it's signed by a CA, but most supplicants don't trust any CAs by default.
> It would be good to get an exact work flow here.
The work flow is pretty much identical to SSH server keys: If you've
never connected to a server, and haven't bothered to configure the
expected server identity upfront, there is no way to know you are
connecting to the right guy. This one first time, you take a leap of
faith and accept whatever comes. From that moment on, in the future you
either get the same key (good) or you observe that the key changed
(refuse to connect; the only way of overriding is to delete your (SSH /
Wi-Fi) configuration and restart from scratch.
Just as with SSH, the expectation is that you establish that first
connection in a well-defined setting (in the case of Wi-Fi: such as at
your helpdesk, inside the office building etc.) so that you learn the
correct ID. A rogue attacker later on the street that tries to grab your
password by having replicated your office SSID will be automatically
blocked from doing so, because your supplicant has previously learned
that TOD-TOFU is in place, and has previously learned the expected
certificate, and observes a different incoming certificate.
>> Thinking this through, here's a few considerations:
>> 1. What happens if your very first connection is directly to an
>> attacker? The supplicant will not be told to be picky, will prompt for
>> trust, and will send the username/password to the attacker. Since you
>> have never ever contacted your proper authentication server, it can't
>> tell your supplicant to be picky, so this is a hard problem that can't
>> be solved. It can be compared to your first SSH connection attempt, and
>> you immediately end up at an impostor, and trust its SSH key.
> Also, why trust the server certificate at all? What role does the root CA (if any) play in this process?
As discussed above: it's a leap of faith during the very first
connection to the network. No CA plays a part in this process: it's not
preconfigured (otherwise the TOFU step wouldn't be needed anyway), and
the EAP conversation typically only sends server cert plus possibly
intermediates. If no root CA is being sent, it can't be marked as
trusted. So with TOFU, the exact server certificate is being trusted on
first use (interactively by the user); from then on, the server cert is
stored in the local supplicant config and is the reference for all
subsequent connections to the same network.
>> 2. With TOD-TOFU, the server certificate is pinned "forever". Now what
>> happens if you feel the need to change the server cert? It is possible
>> to delete the entire Wi-Fi config - this will also delete the stickiness
>> to the old cert. While that's possible, it is best to do everything you
>> can to let your server cert live very very long. E.g. have a CA cert
>> with 30 years validity, and a server cert *with the same 30 years
>> validity*. The TOD-TOFU configuration is then good for a very long time,
>> and the only reasons to exchange the cert are an actual key compromise
>> or crypto algorithms decaying over time. Using a root CA with the same
>> lifetime has the additional plus that those clients who configured the
>> (CA,name) tuple, instead of relying on the ad-hoc first use trust, will
>> even accept the new server certificate without needing any change.
> There should really be a way for certs to be signed by multiple entities. i.e. the new cert could be signed by the old one, as a signal that the new cert is (a) known, and (b) can replace the old one.
I wish. X.509v3 does not have a way to do this. Between CAs,
cross-certification and re-using a private key to generate a different
cert are tricks being used, but they have their own failure modes. There
does not seem to be any practical way today to handle trust root
>> The new policies are now part of raddb/certs/xpextensions and default to
>> enabling "TOD-TOFU". This should be part of the next 3.0.x release. But
>> of course it will only start having an effect once you have created a
>> certificate with the respective scripts; and its effect will only be on
>> "new" supplicants that have the latest Wi-Fi Alliance WPA3 Security Dec
>> 2019 Release certification. There will be a slow phase-in of such
>> supplicants over time. This has the advantage that turning it on *today*
>> won't all of a sudden break all your deployed base. Which is good.
> Good to hear. Thanks.
> Alan DeKok.
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