Authenticate with machine account and without ntlm_auth

Dave Funk dbfunk at engineering.uiowa.edu
Thu Nov 14 18:40:40 UTC 2024


On Thu, 14 Nov 2024, Alan DeKok wrote:

> On Nov 14, 2024, at 12:25 PM, Rodrigo Antunes via Freeradius-Users <freeradius-users at lists.freeradius.org> wrote:
>> Hi, I'd like to authenticate a PC using it's machine account and the mschap module, without calling ntlm_auth, is this possible?
>
>  It depends.
>
>  If all of the passwords are in Active Directory, then you have to use ntlm_auth.
>
>> I noticed that the machine send its user as "host/machinename" but I don't know how to obtain and check its password.
>
>  You should be able to just check the machine credentials.  Try it with ntlm_auth.  It's a command-line tool that can be used on its own.
>
>> Maybe I should check the nt-hashes in users file?
>
>  You will need the correct password, and then store that in the "users" file.

If the PC is a member of an Active-Directory domain that approach will be 
problematic because the domain periodically changes machine passwords.

If using ntlm_auth is so issuous that it needs to be avoided another approach 
would be to use eap-tls with the PC's SSL certificate that was issued by the 
domain (assuming your AD domain has a CA).

Dave

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