Deploying Freeradius in a HA environment
Hi, I am working on deploying 2 load balancing freeradius in a HA environment. Could someone suggest the best way to do it? I am comfortable with using ldirector as the load balancer, but I am not sure how to do the "check-alive" for freeradius within ldirector. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Regards, Pete
Don't you think that you are asking this on a wrong list. All you need to know about radius is which ports it is using. Ivan Kalik Kalik Informatika ISP Dana 14/6/2008, "Pete Kay" <petedao@gmail.com> piše:
Hi,
I am working on deploying 2 load balancing freeradius in a HA environment. Could someone suggest the best way to do it? I am comfortable with using ldirector as the load balancer, but I am not sure how to do the "check-alive" for freeradius within ldirector.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Pete
Pete Kay wrote:
I am working on deploying 2 load balancing freeradius in a HA environment. Could someone suggest the best way to do it? I am comfortable with using ldirector as the load balancer, but I am not sure how to do the "check-alive" for freeradius within ldirector.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Pete, My recollection is that when this has been discussed in the past the consensus was that there's no advantage to running FreeRADIUS in an HA environment since RADIUS already supports redundant servers. Regards, Richard Siddall
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:12:20AM -0400, Richard Siddall wrote:
Pete Kay wrote:
I am working on deploying 2 load balancing freeradius in a HA environment. Could someone suggest the best way to do it? I am comfortable with using ldirector as the load balancer, but I am not sure how to do the "check-alive" for freeradius within ldirector.
Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
Pete,
My recollection is that when this has been discussed in the past the consensus was that there's no advantage to running FreeRADIUS in an HA environment since RADIUS already supports redundant servers.
I would have to dispute that. We've seen NASes across the range (Cisco, 3Com, Extreme) fail to move to the backup/secondary radius server they've got configured. Sad, but true.
Hi,
I would have to dispute that. We've seen NASes across the range (Cisco, 3Com, Extreme) fail to move to the backup/secondary radius server they've got configured.
report such bugs to the manufacturers of the NAS devices and double check your device configs - several of them have quirky ways of failing over. if you do want to point to a single IP etc then just standard L4 balancing will work - but ensure that the FR boxes are sharing the same information if you rely on accounting records for decisions (eg simultaneous usage) alan
A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
Hi,
I would have to dispute that. We've seen NASes across the range (Cisco, 3Com, Extreme) fail to move to the backup/secondary radius server they've got configured.
report such bugs to the manufacturers of the NAS devices and double check your device configs - several of them have quirky ways of failing over. if you do want to point to a single IP etc then just standard L4 balancing will work Yes, though if you're using EAP make sure that requests from a NAS aren't spread over multiple servers. - but ensure that the FR boxes are sharing the same information if you rely on accounting records for decisions (eg simultaneous usage)
If you're look for a generic solution, layer 7 load balancers are the answer; We are considering them because NAS based fail-over schemes are never perfect, you always have to have a few missing responses before the NAS realises something is up and does something about it. -- Arran Cudbard-Bell (A.Cudbard-Bell@sussex.ac.uk), Authentication, Authorisation and Accounting Officer, Infrastructure Services (IT Services), E1-1-08, Engineering 1, University Of Sussex, Brighton, BN1 9QT DDI+FAX: +44 1273 873900 | INT: 3900
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2008 10:09 schrieb Arran Cudbard-Bell:
A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk wrote:
Hi,
I would have to dispute that. We've seen NASes across the range (Cisco, 3Com, Extreme) fail to move to the backup/secondary radius server they've got configured.
report such bugs to the manufacturers of the NAS devices and double check your device configs - several of them have quirky ways of failing over. if you do want to point to a single IP etc then just standard L4 balancing will work
Load balancing and high availability can be easily accieved by using Linux Virtual Server (LVS) and Linux-HA (heartbeat). If you use the localhost feature of LVS this will even work with two machines. -- Dr. Michael Schwartzkopff MultiNET Services GmbH Addresse: Bretonischer Ring 7; 85630 Grasbrunn; Germany Tel: +49 - 89 - 45 69 11 0 Fax: +49 - 89 - 45 69 11 21 mob: +49 - 174 - 343 28 75 mail: misch@multinet.de web: www.multinet.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: 85630 Grasbrunn Registergericht: Amtsgericht München HRB 114375 Geschäftsführer: Günter Jurgeneit, Hubert Martens --- PGP Fingerprint: F919 3919 FF12 ED5A 2801 DEA6 AA77 57A4 EDD8 979B Skype: misch42
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A.L.M.Buxey@lboro.ac.uk -
Arran Cudbard-Bell -
Ivan Kalik -
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Pete Kay -
Phil Mayers -
Richard Siddall