Can we get success response in other servers ?
Hi All, After successful authentication of user in freeradius server, can we get this below success response in other servers like nginx or apache ? I've configured the freeradius server in nginx and it is working fine. (19) Sent Access-Accept Id 2 from 127.0.0.1:1812 to 127.0.0.1:59820 length 0 (19) Service-Type = Callback-Login-User (19) Login-IP-Host = 127.127.127.98 (19) Callback-Number = "999999" (19) Login-Service = Telnet (19) Login-TCP-Port = Telnet Thank you, Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695
On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa <mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote:
After successful authentication of user in freeradius server, can we get this below success response in other servers like nginx or apache ?
What does that mean? FreeRADIUS will talk RADIUS to any RADIUS client. Please describe in *detail* what you want to do. Alan DeKok.
I'm implementing freeradius client in nginx web server, As of now I can able authenticate the users in radius server. Now I need to assign roles to the users in freeradius server. When a particular user is authenticated in freeradius server then I need to get that user role of that particular user in my nginx server. I'm struck with the issue that I'm not able to add user roles in freeradius server. Is it possible to set user roles and get that user roles ? Thank you, Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695 On 24 July 2018 at 16:24, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa < mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote:
After successful authentication of user in freeradius server, can we get this below success response in other servers like nginx or apache ?
What does that mean?
FreeRADIUS will talk RADIUS to any RADIUS client.
Please describe in *detail* what you want to do.
Alan DeKok.
- List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/ list/users.html
On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa <mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote:
I'm implementing freeradius client in nginx web server, As of now I can able authenticate the users in radius server. Now I need to assign roles to the users in freeradius server. When a particular user is authenticated in freeradius server then I need to get that user role of that particular user in my nginx server.
What's a "role" ?
I'm struck with the issue that I'm not able to add user roles in freeradius server. Is it possible to set user roles and get that user roles ?
I think you're missing something fairly large here. You're talking about concepts. RADIUS doesn't deal with concepts. It deals with attributes. So... you need to decide which attribute will contain this "role". You need to decide how to determine which user gets which role. Then, configure that in FreeRADIUS. When you ask vague high-level questions, the only response you'll get is vague high-level answers. If you want more detailed answers, ask more detailed questions. You've already been told this. So there's no excuse. Alan DeKok.
Suppose I store the users in the following format in user file. *bob Mygroup := 'guests', Cleartext-Password := 'hello'* *test Mygroup := 'staff', Cleartext-Password := '123456'* When I authenticate the particular user in freeradius server then how can I know which group the user belongs to (*guests* or *staff*). Thank you, Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695 On 24 July 2018 at 16:49, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
On Jul 24, 2018, at 7:02 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa < mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote:
I'm implementing freeradius client in nginx web server, As of now I can able authenticate the users in radius server. Now I need to assign roles
to
the users in freeradius server. When a particular user is authenticated in freeradius server then I need to get that user role of that particular user in my nginx server.
What's a "role" ?
I'm struck with the issue that I'm not able to add user roles in freeradius server. Is it possible to set user roles and get that user roles ?
I think you're missing something fairly large here. You're talking about concepts. RADIUS doesn't deal with concepts. It deals with attributes.
So... you need to decide which attribute will contain this "role". You need to decide how to determine which user gets which role.
Then, configure that in FreeRADIUS.
When you ask vague high-level questions, the only response you'll get is vague high-level answers.
If you want more detailed answers, ask more detailed questions. You've already been told this. So there's no excuse.
Alan DeKok.
- List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/ list/users.html
Here I think is a standard misconception about how RADIUS works. It is not a protocol with many defined outcomes it’s a protocol for transporting attributes between clients and servers to allow the three A's in AAA. RADIUS is not something that knows anything about the clients expectations with respect to outcomes. For this you have to read the clients manuals (not the servers). In most cases the right approach is: Read and understand your clients capabilities and attributes that it sends to the RADIUS service and what attributes it will accept in the response. Work out what attributes you need to get the outcome desired. In many cases testing this is done by setting up a simple server and placing a single entry into the users file changing the exact reply one step at a time until its completely understood what the clients behaviour is. Use what is in the attributes sent during authentication to decide 'who' is asking to be authenticated. From the "who" add attributes to the reply which when interpreted by the client will have the desired outcome (authorisation). The mechanism for working out who and the adding of attributes to the reply is what the FreeRADIUS policy defines. If something isn't sent by the client it’s the clients problem, if the client doesn't understand the response its either because the attribute is wrong or the client doesn't support the attribute you are sending .... read the clients documentation ! If you know how the 'who' part is solved and then how that maps onto the response then and only then try to build a policy to implement it. So to roles.... go find the clients documentation, lookup the RADIUS configuration and see if it says anything about roles (potentially implemented by using groups). If it does, do what it says. If, however, it doesn't then you have to use a different solution. In that case RADIUS might still be used for 'authentication' but not for assigning a 'role'. (Note I don't know the answer in this case never used the RADIUS implementation in nginx.) Note: Not mentioned accounting here which is often a worse pain given how many vendors don't understand simple concepts like 'stateless'. Alister On 24/07/2018, 12:02, "Freeradius-Users on behalf of Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa" <freeradius-users-bounces+alister.winfield=sky.uk@lists.freeradius.org on behalf of mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote: I'm implementing freeradius client in nginx web server, As of now I can able authenticate the users in radius server. Now I need to assign roles to the users in freeradius server. When a particular user is authenticated in freeradius server then I need to get that user role of that particular user in my nginx server. I'm struck with the issue that I'm not able to add user roles in freeradius server. Is it possible to set user roles and get that user roles ? Thank you, Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695 On 24 July 2018 at 16:24, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote: > On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa < > mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote: > > After successful authentication of user in freeradius server, can we get > > this below success response in other servers like nginx or apache ? > > What does that mean? > > FreeRADIUS will talk RADIUS to any RADIUS client. > > Please describe in *detail* what you want to do. > > Alan DeKok. > > > - > List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/ > list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is from an external source. Please do not open attachments or click links from an unknown or suspicious origin. 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Thanks for your inputs Alister. Thank you, Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695 On 24 July 2018 at 17:17, Winfield, Alister <Alister.Winfield@sky.uk> wrote:
Here I think is a standard misconception about how RADIUS works. It is not a protocol with many defined outcomes it’s a protocol for transporting attributes between clients and servers to allow the three A's in AAA.
RADIUS is not something that knows anything about the clients expectations with respect to outcomes. For this you have to read the clients manuals (not the servers).
In most cases the right approach is:
Read and understand your clients capabilities and attributes that it sends to the RADIUS service and what attributes it will accept in the response. Work out what attributes you need to get the outcome desired. In many cases testing this is done by setting up a simple server and placing a single entry into the users file changing the exact reply one step at a time until its completely understood what the clients behaviour is.
Use what is in the attributes sent during authentication to decide 'who' is asking to be authenticated. From the "who" add attributes to the reply which when interpreted by the client will have the desired outcome (authorisation). The mechanism for working out who and the adding of attributes to the reply is what the FreeRADIUS policy defines. If something isn't sent by the client it’s the clients problem, if the client doesn't understand the response its either because the attribute is wrong or the client doesn't support the attribute you are sending .... read the clients documentation !
If you know how the 'who' part is solved and then how that maps onto the response then and only then try to build a policy to implement it.
So to roles.... go find the clients documentation, lookup the RADIUS configuration and see if it says anything about roles (potentially implemented by using groups). If it does, do what it says. If, however, it doesn't then you have to use a different solution. In that case RADIUS might still be used for 'authentication' but not for assigning a 'role'. (Note I don't know the answer in this case never used the RADIUS implementation in nginx.)
Note: Not mentioned accounting here which is often a worse pain given how many vendors don't understand simple concepts like 'stateless'.
Alister
On 24/07/2018, 12:02, "Freeradius-Users on behalf of Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa" <freeradius-users-bounces+alister.winfield= sky.uk@lists.freeradius.org on behalf of mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@ igrid-td.com> wrote:
I'm implementing freeradius client in nginx web server, As of now I can able authenticate the users in radius server. Now I need to assign roles to the users in freeradius server. When a particular user is authenticated in freeradius server then I need to get that user role of that particular user in my nginx server. I'm struck with the issue that I'm not able to add user roles in freeradius server. Is it possible to set user roles and get that user roles ?
Thank you,
Best Regards,*Mallikarjuna PK*Email: mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@ igrid-td.com Mobile: +91-9535744695
On 24 July 2018 at 16:24, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2018, at 5:51 AM, Mallikarjuna Peddappanavara Karibasappa < > mallikarjuna.peddappanavara@igrid-td.com> wrote: > > After successful authentication of user in freeradius server, can we get > > this below success response in other servers like nginx or apache ? > > What does that mean? > > FreeRADIUS will talk RADIUS to any RADIUS client. > > Please describe in *detail* what you want to do. > > Alan DeKok. > > > - > List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/ > list/users.html - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/ list/users.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is from an external source. Please do not open attachments or click links from an unknown or suspicious origin. Phishing attempts can be reported by sending them to phishing@sky.uk as attachments. Thank you --------------------------------------------------------------------
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