Re: header enrichment
please have a look inline thanks
Normally in a mobile services there's no specification into the header about connection type. *Which header? You are assuming that everyone here is familiar with 3g *terminology. You were already told we were not. i didn't mention anything about 3G, i spoke about mobile services, i think you know perfectly wich kind of services I'm talkig about, anyway I can try to support you:
Mobile Services: means all the services that a mobile Operator can give to the customers, from SMS to WAP connections, normally when the user connect to Mobile Operator network infrastructure the connection ( mainly if we are talking about WAP connection) is treathed as an internet connection and the mobile browser request contain http header as well as common internet header. Now using some infrastructure is possible to add more parameters to the header......>>>>
many sniffing were done but only specific equipment allows to enrich the header with this inofrmation,
*Could you describe what you mean in more words? It is meaningless to *say "enrich the header". We have no idea what you mean by that. enrich the header as for google search is a particular feature of a system to add specific tag to the header and it's a common way to describe procedure. here below in attach and example of mobile header and the voice Nokia-bearer is that one that gives info about connection type: we need to determinate the type of of the connection to add to the header the needed parameters normally into a mobile operator some particualr equipment are used as well as radius server to get network parameters as connection type ( i mean connection established by7 the user) this is why I asked for i hope is everything clear now! thanks ------header example--- GET /wap/ HTTP/1.0 If-None-Match: "0-6f-3e6cf51a" Accept: image/gif, text/x-vCalendar, image/vnd.wap.wbmp, application/vnd.wap.wmlscriptc, text/x-vCard, application/vnd.wap.wmlc, application/vnd.wap.wbxml, text/vnd.wap.wml, text/vnd.wap.wmlscript, text/plain Accept-Language: en Accept-Charset: US-ASCII, ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, ISO-10646-UCS-2 profile: http://wap.sonyericssonmobile.com/UAprof/T200.xml User-Agent: SonyEricssonT200/R101 bearer-indication: 0 accept-application: 1,2 X-Nokia-CONNECTION_MODE: CMODE X-Nokia-BEARER: GPRS <-- PARAMETER NEEDED----FRRERADIUS CAN HELP?? X-Nokia-gateway-id: NAWG/3.1/Build52 Via: WTP/1.1 Vodafone wap FTC (Nokia WAP Gateway 3.1/ECD9/3.1.52), 1.1 vlsp1:9010 (squid/2.5.STABLE3) X-Forwarded-For: 172.27.9.3 Host: redsox.tcs.auckland.ac.nz -------------------------------------------- L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail ___________________________________ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
Hi, Ah! So you are speaking of *HTML* headers? That was absolutely not clear up to now... This is a RADIUS mailing list though. I assume you would like to see that the RADIUS server sends specific attributes in an Access-Accept message, whose values then get injected into a HTML header by some WAP gateway? Right? Two things then: 1) you can instruct FreeRADIUS to send any attribute you like in its Accept messages. Most are well-known and predefined in the dictionaries, others can be added by yourself (by, well, providing a dictionary file for these attributes). 2) it is not the RADIUS server's business what the WAP gateway (or any other NAS) *does* with those attributes. Read the gateway's documentation whether it can do the kind of magic you speak about here. If the WAP gateway can't do it, then no RADIUS server can help you. If it can do it, the documentation will hopefully reveal the names and values of the attributes that you have to send. Greetings, Stefan Winter -- Stefan WINTER Stiftung RESTENA - Réseau Téléinformatique de l'Education Nationale et de la Recherche Ingenieur Forschung & Entwicklung 6, rue Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi L-1359 Luxembourg E-Mail: stefan.winter@restena.lu Tel.: +352 424409-1 http://www.restena.lu Fax: +352 422473
Mauro, On 28/02/2008, mauro <zedder_hallen@yahoo.it> wrote:
please have a look inline thanks
Normally in a mobile services there's no specification into the header about connection type. *Which header? You are assuming that everyone here is familiar with 3g *terminology. You were already told we were not. i didn't mention anything about 3G, i spoke about mobile services, i think you know perfectly wich kind of services I'm talkig about, anyway I can try to support you:
What makes you believe that people familiar with RADIUS would be guaranteed to "know perfectly which kind of services you're talking about"? You're clearly familiar with mobile services so I assume that you know perfectly well how to configure a RADIUS server. However, I'm prepared to try to support you!
Mobile Services: means all the services that a mobile Operator can give to the customers, from SMS to WAP connections, normally when the user connect to Mobile Operator network infrastructure the connection ( mainly if we are talking about WAP connection) is treathed as an internet connection and the mobile browser request contain http header as well as common internet header. Now using some infrastructure is possible to add more parameters to the header......>>>>
many sniffing were done but only specific equipment allows to enrich the header with this inofrmation,
*Could you describe what you mean in more words? It is meaningless to *say "enrich the header". We have no idea what you mean by that.
enrich the header as for google search is a particular feature of a system to add specific tag to the header and it's a common way to describe procedure. here below in attach and example of mobile header and the voice Nokia-bearer is that one that gives info about connection type: we need to determinate the type of of the connection
Pointing us to Google when you have not given a clear explanation of which header attributes you wish to enrich is not at all helpful. I have a general understanding of what 'header enrichment' is. You just didn't give me any info regarding what you wanted to enrich your headers with.
to add to the header the needed parameters normally into a mobile operator some particualr equipment are used as well as radius server to get network parameters as connection type ( i mean connection established by7 the user) this is why I asked for i hope is everything clear now! thanks
If there is a RADIUS attribute/VSA that can be interpreted by the RADIUS client as containing the information required to enrich your headers, and the client then does the right thing with the Value of that AV pair, then yes, it can be done. If the RADIUS client cannot take the information from a specific AVP, then no it cannot be done without development work by your client vendor (nothing the server can do to force it). Hope that helps, Guy
------header example---
GET /wap/ HTTP/1.0
If-None-Match: "0-6f-3e6cf51a"
Accept: image/gif, text/x-vCalendar, image/vnd.wap.wbmp, application/vnd.wap.wmlscriptc, text/x-vCard, application/vnd.wap.wmlc, application/vnd.wap.wbxml, text/vnd.wap.wml, text/vnd.wap.wmlscript, text/plain
Accept-Language: en
Accept-Charset: US-ASCII, ISO-8859-1, UTF-8, ISO-10646-UCS-2
profile: http://wap.sonyericssonmobile.com/UAprof/T200.xml
User-Agent: SonyEricssonT200/R101
bearer-indication: 0
accept-application: 1,2
X-Nokia-CONNECTION_MODE: CMODE
X-Nokia-BEARER: GPRS <-- PARAMETER NEEDED----FRRERADIUS CAN HELP??
X-Nokia-gateway-id: NAWG/3.1/Build52
Via: WTP/1.1 Vodafone wap FTC (Nokia WAP Gateway 3.1/ECD9/3.1.52), 1.1 vlsp1:9010
(squid/2.5.STABLE3)
X-Forwarded-For: 172.27.9.3
Host: redsox.tcs.auckland.ac.nz --------------------------------------------
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