I have more info.. I turned on debugging on the Radius Server and this is what I saw.. EAP-Message = 0x03030004 Message-Authenticator = 0x00000000000000000000000000000000 State = 0x4432dbd90b6b53254567784c2809c028 rad_recv: Access-Request packet from host 10.0.x.x:1645, id=195, length=147 User-Name = "test" Framed-MTU = 1400 Called-Station-Id = "0011.925e.9170" Calling-Station-Id = "0012.cf4f.1471" Service-Type = Login-User Message-Authenticator = 0x692f16e735g754a853180379a493551 EAP-Message = 0x01020010110100067886e374f19bec88 NAS-Port-Type = Wireless-802.11 NAS-Port = 1144 State = 0x4432dbd90b6b5345675504c2809c028 NAS-IP-Address = 10.0.x.x NAS-Identifier = "ap2" rlm_eap: Either EAP-request timed out OR EAP-response to an unknown EAP-request rad_recv: Access-Request packet from host 10.0.254.61:1645, id=195, length=147 Sending Access-Reject of id 195 to 10.0.x.xport 1645 But then I use a newer wireless NIC, and it works perfectly.. I was using freeradius 1.1.4, but then put on 1.1.7 and still the same results. I have no idea why it is doing that for some of the older drivers, and not all. I looked also for time out periods, and have tried to increase them, but no such luck. Its driving me bonkers! Thanks for any help! Rick Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information, or Protected Health Information as such term is defined under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, copying or distribution is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you believe you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the original message, including attachments.