Hi Alan (Buxley), Googling a bit and not having a mac or windows machine, it is looking very tricky to set this up "manually". I have been able to download mobile config files in hex form from other universities, but it looks like it'd be a lot easier to generate this automatically. So unless you have a genius solution, I will likely borrow someone's Windows machine (the shame) and generate a profile! I guess that won't be so bad, but if you know of other resources that are easier, I'm all ears! And either way, thanks so much to you and every for the thoughts! On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 6:00 AM, < freeradius-users-request@lists.freeradius.org> wrote:

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1. Re: EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user (Chevalier Violet) 2. Re: EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user (Alan Buxey)

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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 01:00:03 -0400 From: Chevalier Violet <chevalier.violet@gmail.com> To: freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org Subject: Re: EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user Message-ID: <CANv8M1sMeczbPX9vicXi=dKUN=NDyEviQUc_t+VDxqeN+a3kkQ@mail. gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Update: I got my iPhone working. I think the problem was that I needed to import the client.p12 cert (helpfully mentioned not very often of course). Anyway, it's working!

As for how to make THAT relatively automatic... wow, I may need the website Alan proposed.

Best, David

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Chevalier Violet < chevalier.violet@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the thoughts. It's much appreciated to know that maybe it's not just n00bness that is causing me to struggle with this!

I ended up making a pw protected page on my website (sigh)--but the limits of that solution without internet access are pretty obvious I'd say!

And never mind that using TTLS-PAP with passwords saved as SSHA-512 doesn't work on the iphone... !!! That's kinda insane if you ask me. But obviously apple didn't!

Getting certs on the iPhone has been a real hassle--it'd be easier with mac or windows machines around because I could use iTunes, but anyway, it has been done through the website option!

Now, I can't get EAP-TLS to work on my iPhone because I can't choose "mode" EAP-TLS. Instead, it continually asks me for the username & pass, which is precisely what I'm trying to avoid! I think there may be someway to signal that my wifi prefers TLS mode that I don't know about.

If you have help on that point, that'd be great, and sigh&thanks!

CV

PS Indeed my routher is not exactly hotspot 2.0 or captive portal compliant!

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chevalier Violet < chevalier.violet@gmail.com> wrote:

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I've been googling around and kind of surprised to not be seeing a ton of resources about this. Maybe you all can help!

EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user. It needs to be relatively automated. I do have users coming by with BYOD devices, e.g. iPhones (omg they're super finicky about the freeradius setup but that's another story!), frequently when I'm not around to set them up.

Users are starting with no internet access.

I was thinking maybe of the following:

1) Use some kind of TTLS-MSCHAPv2 thing with a standard user & password for guests that would change every so often. Maybe let them use the internet either i) for a few minutes at a time or ii) only to access a page on the internal network from which they could download the guest certificate that would allow them to connect via EAP-TLS? 3) the certs would expire after a few days.

I have been struggling to get even my own iPhone to have the proper cert! On the bright side, my two linux machines are now working with EAP-TLS so there's hope for me! I wish I could just put the certs on a USB key but that doesn't work for phones. And it's a bunch of Linux machines, no Windows or Macs around. Excuse me if this is a n00b question.

Thanks everyone!

PS At this link:

https://github.com/FreeRADIUS/freeradius-server/issues/2045# issuecomment-324641610

Arr2036 mentions that the hot spot 2.0 standards set out how this could work, with auto-renewing certs and the whole 9 yards. I wasn't able to find how to make that work for linux, for instance with freeradius. Thanks!

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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 07:55:48 +0100 From: Alan Buxey <alan.buxey@gmail.com> To: FreeRadius users mailing list <freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org> Subject: Re: EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user Message-ID: <CAOVYXj8MnXE1eG9hA8zB+QBKCf8J-109Tun8Hc8waB9=XEJgrg@ mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Getting certs onto the iPhone is fairly easy if you just use a .mobileconfig profile deployment file , as can be created with the apple tools, manually or with commercial tools :)

alan

On 12 Sep 2017 5:31 am, "Chevalier Violet" <chevalier.violet@gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi all,

Thanks for all the thoughts. It's much appreciated to know that maybe it's not just n00bness that is causing me to struggle with this!

I ended up making a pw protected page on my website (sigh)--but the limits of that solution without internet access are pretty obvious I'd say!

And never mind that using TTLS-PAP with passwords saved as SSHA-512 doesn't work on the iphone... !!! That's kinda insane if you ask me. But obviously apple didn't!

Getting certs on the iPhone has been a real hassle--it'd be easier with mac or windows machines around because I could use iTunes, but anyway, it has been done through the website option!

Now, I can't get EAP-TLS to work on my iPhone because I can't choose "mode" EAP-TLS. Instead, it continually asks me for the username & pass, which is precisely what I'm trying to avoid! I think there may be someway to signal that my wifi prefers TLS mode that I don't know about.

If you have help on that point, that'd be great, and sigh&thanks!

CV

PS Indeed my routher is not exactly hotspot 2.0 or captive portal compliant!

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Chevalier Violet < chevalier.violet@gmail.com> wrote:

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I've been googling around and kind of surprised to not be seeing a ton of resources about this. Maybe you all can help!

EAP-TLS: Strategies for getting the right certificate to the right user. It needs to be relatively automated. I do have users coming by with BYOD devices, e.g. iPhones (omg they're super finicky about the freeradius setup but that's another story!), frequently when I'm not around to set them up.

Users are starting with no internet access.

I was thinking maybe of the following:

1) Use some kind of TTLS-MSCHAPv2 thing with a standard user & password for guests that would change every so often. Maybe let them use the internet either i) for a few minutes at a time or ii) only to access a page on the internal network from which they could download the guest certificate that would allow them to connect via EAP-TLS? 3) the certs would expire after a few days.

I have been struggling to get even my own iPhone to have the proper cert! On the bright side, my two linux machines are now working with EAP-TLS so there's hope for me! I wish I could just put the certs on a USB key but that doesn't work for phones. And it's a bunch of Linux machines, no Windows or Macs around. Excuse me if this is a n00b question.

Thanks everyone!

PS At this link:

https://github.com/FreeRADIUS/freeradius-server/issues/2045# issuecomment-324641610

Arr2036 mentions that the hot spot 2.0 standards set out how this could work, with auto-renewing certs and the whole 9 yards. I wasn't able to find how to make that work for linux, for instance with freeradius. Thanks!

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