Hello,
My name is Javier Escalante, I have been asking questions here for a couple of days, and I was as well asking in 2015. Revising the answers from now and 2015, from Alan Dekok, one of the most active members of this group, and I think the one who manages it, I have realized, that it is useless to ask, you will always get the same bullshit from him, and he will treat you like if you were an idiot, but you won't get a solution. He might be very "intelligent", but he and his fellows are wasting time and energy, and make us waste it as well (It is clear that they don't know about Zen...) by answering in the way they answer. Instead, they and the ones who made the wiki, should add the following video sent to me by Uchenna Nebedum youtube.com/watch?v=-xws3eo2CAQ (Thanks Uchenna). Here, you will find all what you won't get in this group in your whole life, because all "these intelligent" people like Alan and fellows, think that we ask because we already know. Don't you realize guys that if I knew what I ask, I'd be having beers and not wasting my fucking time with you!!!??
After watching the video, you can configure your RADIUS in less than 30', and you can stop wasting your time here. Uchenna also sent me a freeradius book, which I can send to all who want it.
My question is; what you guys (Alan and fellows who act like him) are you doing here? What is your aim? don't you realize that you waste our time and what you are doing is useless? If your aim is helping, you are doing it veeeeeery bad. To answer what you answer, and how you answer, you better close down this mailing list.
And now, Alan, you can ban me another time.
Have a nice day
Best
Hello List, I am falling in the same trap as below quoted a few years back. When using WiMAX, the reply attribute ordering is important. Using rlm_perl which is used with "Splynx" (www.splynx.com) messes up the order in the response and I can't seem to find a way around this. Alan mentioned in a old post "suggestions welcome". Wondering if there was a solution in the meantime or if anyone has a idea how to solve this (with perl)? Thanks, Heiko <quote author='Alan DeKok-2'> Claude Brown wrote:
I'm trying to control the attribute-ordering when using "rlm_perl". Thus far my experience is that this is not
possible. My theory is that this is due to the hash-tables used as the interface between the C and Perl worlds. Quite possibly.
The ordering is important to for me as I want those three WiMAX attributes packed inside a parent attribute "WiMAX-Packet-Flow-Descriptor". If I turn off the "perl" module (or place it before the "files" module) the packing works as expected.
Yeah. The server really needs to have a better way of handling nested attributes. Suggestions are welcome...
Can anyone see how I can control the ordering of attributes coming out of the perl script?
Not using Perl. Alan DeKok. - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html </quote> Quoted from: http://freeradius.1045715.n5.nabble.com/Cannot-control-attribute-ordering-vi... _____________________________________ Sent from http://freeradius.1045715.n5.nabble.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *PYRAMITE* *Heiko Rehm /// PYRAMITE-IT/* Email: hrehm@pyra-mite.net Location: https://goo.gl/maps/vcxUbJJUaEq Jabber: heiko@chat.pyra-mite.net Mobile Kenya: (+254) 708 725 844 Web: http://www.pyra-mite.net Mobile Germany: (+49) 7344 175333 Skype: heikorehm Mobile Belgium: (+32) 495 26 44 26 PGP-Public: goo.gl/h9fgZZ <https://goo.gl/h9fgZZ> Facebook: goo.gl/J8dyJA <https://goo.gl/J8dyJA>
On Jun 30, 2018, at 6:10 AM, Heiko Rehm <hrehm@pyra-mite.net> wrote:
Hello List,
I am falling in the same trap as below quoted a few years back. When using WiMAX, the reply attribute ordering is important. Using rlm_perl which is used with "Splynx" (www.splynx.com) messes up the order in the response and I can't seem to find a way around this.
Alan mentioned in a old post "suggestions welcome". Wondering if there was a solution in the meantime or if anyone has a idea how to solve this (with perl)?
There isn't a good solution, unfortunately. Perl hashes the name and uses that for ordering. FreeRADIUS assumes that the attributes are an ordered list, independent of name. You can work around it by returning policy names in Perl. Then in FreeRADIUS, check for those policy names, and add the correct attributes. Alan DeKok.
Hello Alan,
You can work around it by returning policy names in Perl. Then in FreeRADIUS, check for those policy names, and add the correct attributes.
Interesting. Would you have a config example how to build this? Or a hint to a manual where those Policies are described? Thanks, Heiko ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *PYRAMITE* *Heiko Rehm /// PYRAMITE-IT/* Email: hrehm@pyra-mite.net Location: https://goo.gl/maps/vcxUbJJUaEq Jabber: heiko@chat.pyra-mite.net Mobile Kenya: (+254) 708 725 844 Web: http://www.pyra-mite.net Mobile Germany: (+49) 7344 175333 Skype: heikorehm Mobile Belgium: (+32) 495 26 44 26 PGP-Public: goo.gl/h9fgZZ <https://goo.gl/h9fgZZ> Facebook: goo.gl/J8dyJA <https://goo.gl/J8dyJA> On 6/30/2018 1:33 PM, Alan DeKok wrote:
On Jun 30, 2018, at 6:10 AM, Heiko Rehm <hrehm@pyra-mite.net> wrote:
Hello List,
I am falling in the same trap as below quoted a few years back. When using WiMAX, the reply attribute ordering is important. Using rlm_perl which is used with "Splynx" (www.splynx.com) messes up the order in the response and I can't seem to find a way around this.
Alan mentioned in a old post "suggestions welcome". Wondering if there was a solution in the meantime or if anyone has a idea how to solve this (with perl)? There isn't a good solution, unfortunately. Perl hashes the name and uses that for ordering. FreeRADIUS assumes that the attributes are an ordered list, independent of name.
You can work around it by returning policy names in Perl. Then in FreeRADIUS, check for those policy names, and add the correct attributes.
Alan DeKok.
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On Jun 30, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Heiko Rehm <hrehm@pyra-mite.net> wrote:
Hello Alan,
You can work around it by returning policy names in Perl. Then in FreeRADIUS, check for those policy names, and add the correct attributes.
Interesting. Would you have a config example how to build this?
* edit raddb/dictionary to create an attribute which will contain the policy names: ATTRIBUTE My-Policy 3003 string Then set the value of that attribute in Perl. e.g. to "policy1" Then in FreeRADIUS: if (My-Policy == "policy1") { ... add Wimax attributes ... }
Or a hint to a manual where those Policies are described?
You need to create your own policies. The server doesn't come with example configurations for every possible situation. Alan DeKok.
Javier, The Book i sent to you was Infact recommended by Alan. Just wanted to help out. On Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 10:52 Javier Ruiz Escalante <escalanterj@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
My name is Javier Escalante, I have been asking questions here for a couple of days, and I was as well asking in 2015. Revising the answers
from
now and 2015, from Alan Dekok, one of the most active members of this group, and I think the one who manages it, I have realized, that it is useless to ask, you will always get the same bullshit from him, and he will treat you like if you were an idiot, but you won't get a solution. He might be very "intelligent", but he and his fellows are wasting time and energy, and make us waste it as well (It is clear that they don't know about Zen...) by answering in the way they answer. Instead, they and the ones who made the wiki, should add the following video sent to me by Uchenna Nebedum youtube.com/watch?v=-xws3eo2CAQ (Thanks Uchenna). Here, you will find all what you won't get in this group in your whole life, because all "these intelligent" people like Alan and fellows, think that we ask because we already know. Don't you realize guys that if I knew what I ask, I'd be having beers and not wasting my fucking time with you!!!??
After watching the video, you can configure your RADIUS in less than 30', and you can stop wasting your time here. Uchenna also sent me a freeradius book, which I can send to all who want it.
My question is; what you guys (Alan and fellows who act like him) are you doing here? What is your aim? don't you realize that you waste our time and what you are doing is useless? If your aim is helping, you are doing it veeeeeery bad. To answer what you answer, and how you answer, you better close down this mailing list.
And now, Alan, you can ban me another time.
Have a nice day
Best
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My name is Javier Escalante, I have been asking questions here for a couple of days, and I was as well asking in 2015. Revising the answers from now and 2015, from Alan Dekok, one of the most active members of this group, and I think the one who manages it,
Well yes, he is the project leader. Between Alan and myself we've been responsible for about 95% of the commits to the FreeRADIUS codebase in recent years. Alan has been around since '99, and was one of the project's original founders. But don't let all this impinge on your sense of self entitlement.
I have realized, that it is useless to ask, you will always get the same bullshit from him, and he will treat you like if you were an idiot, but you won't get a solution. He might be very "intelligent", but he and his fellows are wasting time and energy, and make us waste it as well (It is clear that they don't know about Zen...) by answering in the way they answer.
The general idea is to encourage you to think for yourself. I believe I actually gave insight as to why you were unlikely to get the responses you wanted, in a reply to another post you made, and why, I, personally was not going to help if you continued asking questions in the way you were.
Here, you will find all what you won't get in this group in your whole life, because all "these intelligent" people like Alan and fellows, think that we ask because we already know. Don't you realize guys that if I knew what I ask, I'd be having beers and not wasting my fucking time with you!!‽? After watching the video, you can configure your RADIUS in less than 30', and you can stop wasting your time here. Uchenna also sent me a freeradius book, which I can send to all who want it.
Yes, yes, viva la revolución!
My question is; what you guys (Alan and fellows who act like him) are you doing here?
Answering questions.
What is your aim?
To help people use FreeRADIUS.
don't you realize that you waste our time and what you are doing is useless?
I don't know, a fair few people seem happy with the answers.
If your aim is helping, you are doing it veeeeeery bad. To answer what you answer, and how you answer, you better close down this mailing list.
Or, we could just ban all the dissenters, I like this idea more. Bah, Alan got there first it seems. -Arran
Javier, you do realize that all you were able to achieve with that video was a tip of the iceberg of what you can with freeRADIUS. I don't know where all your bitterness is from but you do know these people worked on a project and "Open Sourced" it for you to benefit. The least you could do was show a little respect. We/I really appreciate your work Alan, Arran and team. On Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 14:02 Arran Cudbard-Bell <a.cudbardb@freeradius.org> wrote:
My name is Javier Escalante, I have been asking questions here for a couple of days, and I was as well asking in 2015. Revising the answers from now and 2015, from Alan Dekok, one of the most active members of this group, and I think the one who manages it,
Well yes, he is the project leader. Between Alan and myself we've been responsible for about 95% of the commits to the FreeRADIUS codebase in recent years.
Alan has been around since '99, and was one of the project's original founders.
But don't let all this impinge on your sense of self entitlement.
I have realized, that it is useless to ask, you will always get the same bullshit from him, and he will treat you like if you were an idiot, but you won't get a solution. He might be very "intelligent", but he and his fellows are wasting time and energy, and make us waste it as well (It is clear that they don't know about Zen...) by answering in the way they answer.
The general idea is to encourage you to think for yourself. I believe I actually gave insight as to why you were unlikely to get the responses you wanted, in a reply to another post you made, and why, I, personally was not going to help if you continued asking questions in the way you were.
Here, you will find all what you won't get in this group in your whole life, because all "these intelligent" people like Alan and fellows, think that we ask because we already know. Don't you realize guys that if I knew what I ask, I'd be having beers and not wasting my fucking time with you!!‽? After watching the video, you can configure your RADIUS in less than 30', and you can stop wasting your time here. Uchenna also sent me a freeradius book, which I can send to all who want it.
Yes, yes, viva la revolución!
My question is; what you guys (Alan and fellows who act like him) are you doing here?
Answering questions.
What is your aim?
To help people use FreeRADIUS.
don't you realize that you waste our time and what you are doing is useless?
I don't know, a fair few people seem happy with the answers.
If your aim is helping, you are doing it veeeeeery bad. To answer what you answer, and how you answer, you better close down this mailing list.
Or, we could just ban all the dissenters, I like this idea more. Bah, Alan got there first it seems.
-Arran - List info/subscribe/unsubscribe? See http://www.freeradius.org/list/users.html
On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Uchenna Nebedum <nebeduch@gmail.com> wrote:
Javier, you do realize that all you were able to achieve with that video was a tip of the iceberg of what you can with freeRADIUS. I don't know where all your bitterness is from
The red flag was "I tried 1000 different things". Every time someone says that, it means they're not following the documentation. Worse, they're going out of their way to *avoid* following the documentation. Every good sysadmin knows to put their ego away when trying to fix things. Read the docs, follow the docs, get it fixed. The people who think they're smarter than everyone else don't read the docs, they don't follow the docs, and they get angry when others tell them they made a mistake. While FreeRADIUS is complex, following the docs will get the problem fixed 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time, ask questions on the list. And ask *good* questions. We don't expect everyone to be experts. We *do* expect people to listen, and to follow instructions. It's that simple. Alan DeKok.
Just a quick addition to Alan's comment on *good* questions. This has been around for many. many years, but most people have never heard of it. Definitely worth a read: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Thanks to Alan and others who tirelessly answer so many questions here! -Mark On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:37 AM, Uchenna Nebedum <nebeduch@gmail.com> wrote:
Javier, you do realize that all you were able to achieve with that video was a tip of the iceberg of what you can with freeRADIUS. I don't know where all your bitterness is from
The red flag was "I tried 1000 different things".
Every time someone says that, it means they're not following the documentation. Worse, they're going out of their way to *avoid* following the documentation.
Every good sysadmin knows to put their ego away when trying to fix things. Read the docs, follow the docs, get it fixed.
The people who think they're smarter than everyone else don't read the docs, they don't follow the docs, and they get angry when others tell them they made a mistake.
While FreeRADIUS is complex, following the docs will get the problem fixed 90% of the time. The other 10% of the time, ask questions on the list. And ask *good* questions.
We don't expect everyone to be experts. We *do* expect people to listen, and to follow instructions.
It's that simple.
Alan DeKok.
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Mark J. Bobak -
Uchenna Nebedum