Hello list, We have a Cisco 10008 that we are trying to set up for broadband aggregation. The 10008 utilizes a radius server to authenticate each internet subscriber, either based on mac address or circuit id. Cisco says that we cannot use freeradius (they recommend Cistron, which is now 4 years old) because "freeradius is buggy and does not work well" (their words, not mine, no flaming please!!!). I suspect that the particular CCIE has had some bad experience with freeradius in his sysadmin past, but he is normally a very good engineer and hasn't steered us wrong in the past on other projects... We use freeradius for other uses in our network and have never had problems with it. In fact, we are using it (v. 0.9.3) with a Cisco 10008SSG to authenticate PPPOE clients on an MMDS system, with no problems. Has anyone ever run into this type of problem or roadblock before? Any advice would be welcome, and let me know if I need to send more detail... Thanks! Alex
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We use freeradius for other uses in our network and have never had problems with it. In fact, we are using it (v. 0.9.3) with a Cisco 10008SSG to authenticate PPPOE clients on an MMDS system, with no problems. Has anyone ever run into this type of problem or roadblock before?
Any advice would be welcome, and let me know if I need to send more detail...
We've been using freeradius (from 0.9.7 to 1.1.7) with cisco 10k, 7200, 7301 as both PPPoE and L2TP aggregation platform for years. During that period we ran into only one issue (I think it was with 1.1.3) when the server crashed under very heavy load for no apparent reason. Beyond that - I don't think there is any other radius server that gives you the flexibility and robustness that you get for free with freeradius. I know of freeradius installations (from the 1.1 branch) that worked completely flawlessly for years. I'd only suggest an upgrade to a more recent version (2.0.0 just got released). If you have any questions - please ask. kind reagards Pshem
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We have a Cisco 10008 that we are trying to set up for broadband aggregation. The 10008 utilizes a radius server to authenticate each internet subscriber, either based on mac address or circuit id. Cisco says that we cannot use freeradius
A Cisco *account rep* is telling you that. I have a few responses: 1) Please tell me his name so that I can escalate this internally in Cisco. (my contacts are somewhat higher in the organization than he is). Private email is fine... 2) http://deployingradius.com/cisco_and_freeradius.png 3) See this Cisco page, and many others: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6307/products_tech_note09186a008087033... i.e. Cisco WLAN controller supports "ACS, FreeRADIUS, other" for RADIUS servers. Cisco's main web page gives instructions on how to use FreeRADIUS with Cisco's products. My suggestion would be to point the sales rep to those links, and tell him to stop lying to you. It's bad business practice, and ruins customer relationships.
(they recommend Cistron, which is now 4 years old) because "freeradius is buggy and does not work well" (their words, not mine, no flaming please!!!). I suspect that the particular CCIE has had some bad experience with freeradius in his sysadmin past, but he is normally a very good engineer and hasn't steered us wrong in the past on other projects...
Cistron isn't actively developed. I'm not even sure when the last release was. See also: http://freeradius.org/press/survey.html i.e. He's claiming FreeRADIUS doesn't work. 100,000 sites, and over 100 million users disagree.
We use freeradius for other uses in our network and have never had problems with it. In fact, we are using it (v. 0.9.3) with a Cisco 10008SSG to authenticate PPPOE clients on an MMDS system, with no problems. Has anyone ever run into this type of problem or roadblock before?
It's fine. See also: http://freeradius.org/features/interoperability.html In almost 10 years of working with FreeRADIUS, I only recall 3 products that were incompatible with FreeRADIUS. All 3 implemented the specs *wrong*. i.e. They were incompatible with many other NASes and RADIUS servers, too. And it only took the vendors a few months to correct their products to follow the specs. Alan DeKok.
Alex Moen <alexm@ndtel.com> writes:
Any advice would be welcome, and let me know if I need to send more detail...
Sounds like its time to consider something else than Cisco. I can recommend Juniper ERXes for broadband aggregation. And they certainly work well with FreeRADIUS. Oh, I hope the sales reps' boss didn't see this... Bjørn
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