Civility is a cornerstone of effective communication. Could we please exercise some restraint and eliminate the profanity on the FreeRADIUS lists. It's offensive without adding any content. -- John
* John Dennis <jdennis@redhat.com> [2014-05-16 20:40]:
Civility is a cornerstone of effective communication. Could we please exercise some restraint and eliminate the profanity on the FreeRADIUS lists. It's offensive without adding any content.
If you find you're offended by something, that's a problem in your own head, not the other guy's. -- Vegard Svanberg <vegard@svanberg.no> [*Takapa@IRC (EFnet)]
If you find you're offended by >something, that's a problem in your own head, not the other guy's.
It's a fair comment...and I guess that anything such as someones viewpoint or approach to be offensive. But in this case though it was about swearing. Theres no need for generic profanity 'just because' , I can understand a little bit creeping into ones email die to frustration, stress or total disbelief of an actuality. Hopefully were all pretty mature people and can just get along taking this into account. (Be aware that some people might be behind some email filter system that will block or report sweary mails so if you swear you'll not get any help or response from them) Alan -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
On 16 May 2014, at 19:38, John Dennis <jdennis@redhat.com> wrote:
Civility is a cornerstone of effective communication. Could we please exercise some restraint and eliminate the profanity on the FreeRADIUS lists. It's offensive without adding any content.
Can we drop the condescending tone and actually contribute some fucking code. Arran Cudbard-Bell <a.cudbardb@freeradius.org> FreeRADIUS Development Team FD31 3077 42EC 7FCD 32FE 5EE2 56CF 27F9 30A8 CAA2
On 16 May 2014, at 21:36, Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> wrote:
Arran Cudbard-Bell wrote:
Can we drop the condescending tone and actually contribute some fucking code.
That's a bit much.
Please no profanity on the list.
Fair enough, i'll rephrase that statement more constructively. I dislike the way John attempts to dictate activities within the project without contributing to it in any substantive way beyond RPM patches. Open source development is a truer meritocracy than most which claim to be. You're the project leader because you've contributed thousands of hours and probably (by now) at least half a million lines of code. I claim to be on the FreeRADIUS development team and act authoritatively on some project related matters, as i've now contributed large amounts of code, and handle a lot of day to day maintenance. Phil, Matthew, Alan B, Fajar, Olivier, or any of the other active contributors have earned the right to have their opinions heard and considered through years of actively contributing code, documentation, test cases, or by helping people on the mailing lists. Maybe historically John has contributed significant amounts, and i'm out of line. But I can't think of many examples in the last seven years, so when he acts as an authority or someone who's opinion should hold weight, or be respected, I take exception. Arran Cudbard-Bell <a.cudbardb@freeradius.org> FreeRADIUS Development Team FD31 3077 42EC 7FCD 32FE 5EE2 56CF 27F9 30A8 CAA2
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