Need help
Alan DeKok
aland at deployingradius.com
Mon Jan 15 21:16:46 CET 2007
Peter Nixon wrote:
> While there IS a difference in speed between writing to an on-disk spool and
> your method (in memory queue) our method is "correct" and a dedicated disk
> (or raid set) is more than fast enough to keep up with thousands of requests
> per second. (I haven't benchmarked it recently but I suspect we are in 100K
> requests per second territory here depending on disk spindle speed,
> filesystem and cache configuration)
To put it another way, if a system doesn't have to be correct, you can
make it run as fast as you want.
Never underestimate that speed of a process that does "exit 0". It's
not correct, but *man* is it fast!
> Basically a queue of more than a second (or the timeout configured on your
> NAS) is worse than sending an Authentication reject to a couple of users as
> the whole thing just snowballs! An Auth queue only helps in the case where
> you have a huge peak of requests that cannot be serviced simultaneously but
> CAN be serviced quicker than the configurable timeout of your NAS. If you
> continually have a deep queue then you need to increase the speed of your
> backend.
The CVS head tries to be a little smarter. The priority is:
a) replies from proxies (i.e. ongoing requests)
b) requests with State attribute (i.e. EAP)
c) everything else.
This means that people get to finish their authentications.
> I would be interested to see you run a benchmark to show that your algorithm
> for dealing with newest Auth request first is actually a performance gain in
> a high load environment. (I suspect that it will make very little difference
> compared with out caching system) If it does make a considerable difference,
> then of course we would consider adding a similar feature to FreeRADIUS.
> (ie. Please prove to us that what you have done is actually better!)
Dealing the the newest request first is *bad*. FreeRADIUS puts
requests into a queue, and discards requests from the queue if it
determines that they've timed out, or that the NAS has given up on them.
Priority (or time-based) queues stabilize networks. FILO queues do not.
Alan DeKok.
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