Hi, > bash-2.05b# ls -l /usr/local/etc/raddb/db.counter > -rw------- 1 root wheel 24576 Nov 21 2003 /usr/local/etc/raddb/db.counter > drwxr-xr-x 5 root wheel 1536 Feb 14 12:09 raddb right. so root is okay. do you run radiusd as root? alan