AW: [EXTERNAL] AW: AW: Setting Framed-MTU Attribute

Thu Mar 24 11:31:00 UTC 2022

Hi,

I already tried to change the MTU on the APs. No changes in the situation.
The UDP pakets are originated by the APs (Ubiquity). So, if I understand you, there no possibility to change the behaviour and the only solution is to install a Freeradius in the second office, correct?

Thank your
Luca Bertoncello
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Betreff: Re: [EXTERNAL] AW: AW: Setting Framed-MTU Attribute

Okay simple check if you take your device sending UDP and force the configured MTU on the egress interface to be smaller than 1500 bytes then restart the application in question… does it still send 1500 byte packets ? If it does, then nothing you do with the AP, DHCP or RADIUS will have any effect. This is as likely to be a software issue as anything else. TCP flows tend to honour the MTU of the interface although in some annoying cases even this fails to work out well.

Oh before I forget …If that UDP originates outside your setup forget it nothing you do will change the fragmentation here. Protocols using UDP rarely if ever negotiate an MTU / MRU value just relying on fragmentation to ensure the packets get from A to B.

A.

From: Freeradius-Users <freeradius-users-bounces+alister.winfield=sky.uk at lists.freeradius.org> on behalf of Luca Bertoncello <L.Bertoncello at queo-group.com>
Date: Thursday, 24 March 2022 at 08:39
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] AW: AW: Setting Framed-MTU Attribute
Hi Matthew,

so, I checked the OpenVPN configuration on the servers and I have mtu-disc set to yes.
In the documentation of OpenVPN I read:

      --mtu-disc type
              Should we do Path MTU discovery on TCP/UDP channel?  Only supported on OSes such as Linux that supports the necessary system call to set.

              'no' -- Never send DF (Don't Fragment) frames
              'maybe' -- Use per-route hints
              'yes' -- Always DF (Don't Fragment)

So, it seems I already use the PMTUD.

Do you (or someone other) have any suggestion to solve my problem or must I install a Freeradius in the second office, too?

Thanks
Luca Bertoncello

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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. März 2022 16:38
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Betreff: Re: AW: Setting Framed-MTU Attribute

On 23/03/2022 15:28, Luca Bertoncello wrote:
> I read the site-available/default but since I don't know what I have to search for, it's very difficult...

As Alan said, the default config is full of examples of how to update attributes. You just have to read it. Updating attributes is also documented in the unlang man pages.

e.g.

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FFreeRADIUS%2Ffreeradius-server%2Fblob%2Fv3.0.x%2Fraddb%2Fsites-available%2Fdefault%23L864-L867&data=04%7C01%7Calister.winfield%40sky.uk%7C3aa9370e68c44f72d07208da0d71b807%7C68b865d5cf184b2b82a4a4eddb9c5237%7C0%7C0%7C637837079911260262%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=adtrx1xJ4fTEDm8gLiLjeRO976yKq07wGQ%2F90JjS6l8%3D&reserved=0

> Currently, I tried to change the mods_enabled/eap and set use_tunneled_reply to yes.
> I also changed the mods-config/attr_filter/access_challenge and added Framed-MTU = 1344 at the start of the "DEFAULT" section.
> No changes in my situation.

Because as you've already been told, attr_filter *removes* attributes, it doesn't add them.

update reply {
   Framed-MTU := 1000
}

 From your original post, though, I suspect this won't help. That attribute is for telling the NAS what MTU to use. It won't make its way through to any device on wifi.

If you have a VPN in the way of that RADIUS server that's causing MTU problems, drop the MTU on the NAS or RADIUS server, or fix the VPN / PMTUD so that the path MTU is calculated correctly. You can't fix that by changing attributes.

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Matthew
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