You might be right but my subject line should give you a clue about who I am. A complete beginner. I guess this list is not only for experts. I already recognized the huge amounts of effort you put into creating the server and I really mean it. I also recognize that you tried to help me , but Alan, just because someone is an expert this doesn't mean that he/she have the right to criticize the ones that are not. I am here for help not to be criticized, and may be the mistakes I made can help you to change things that will save you time when other beginner arrives. Anyway we are wasting our time and bandwidth. I am going to try to figure out then I'll be the only one to blame myself for my mistakes. Jair Santos
-----Original Message----- From: freeradius-users-bounces+jairds=shaw.ca@lists.freeradius.org [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+jairds=shaw.ca@lists.freeradi us.org] On Behalf Of Alan DeKok Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:06 AM To: FreeRadius users mailing list Subject: Re: Newbie question
Jair Santos wrote:
Please understand that when we, as users, go to a site to download a program, the site structure and distribution of information is completely new. We , (I) try to understand it but we have no time to read everything. I believe that this is normal and yes , we make mistakes. Don't you ?
The difficulty is that there are 3-4 places where the correct thing is documented. You managed to miss them *all*. You read one thing on a page, and missed other things written on the same page.
This is actually pretty common. I don't understand why it happens, though.
So please, don't try to give us (me) lessons about how to look for information. I am an old guy and I stiil need much more time to learn new things . I don't need one more person to criticise my mistakes or laziness to read a 200 pages web site in order to understand the whole picture.
Uh... no. You read the page with the CVS instructions. One page. You missed the text right above the CVS instructions saying "see git.freeradius.org".
It's about *us* putting huge amounts of effort into creating the server, documenting it, and answering questions on this list. And yet... it's never enough. No matter how much documentation is written, some people still ignore it... and get upset when told they're ignoring it.
Yes I did click on the link 2.1.1 on the main web page. That was the first thing I did. These files didn't compile. It was NOT because the linker on my system chooses the wrong libs as you can see from the log. There is another reason and I don't know it.
configure:21137: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT
I'll call bait & switch on this one. The ORIGINAL problem you posted was from the output of "make", not "configure":
/usr/lib/libreadline.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
i.e. it's a 32/64-bit problem.
The output you posted from "configure" is different, and meaningless. Pretending it's the same problem is disingenuous. The "errors" are part of the tests configure does to figure out which libraries are needed. Part of the tests involves *failed* compilations... so that it knows that a particular combination of libraries didn't work. And it then tries other libraries.
I am still trying to make this work and I thank very much all of you who are helping me out.
Another message in the same thread was from someone at Redhat. Who posted a link to pre-built RPM's for fedora. Which includes 64-bit versions.
If you had checked the link, you would have discovered this. Instead, you asked on the email list if the link included a 64-bit version.
And if you read the list, you know that I help a *lot* of people here. I'm also trying to help you. Convincing you to read the documentation I've already written is one of the ways I can help you. If this is too painful, feel free to ignore all of my messages to the list.
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