hi, taking some Steinbeck metaphor too far... oh, how I wish Lenny were a code name for MacOSX rather than Debian... anyway, or lovely friend Lenny or having a few issues compared to his friend George. Lenny wants to have the lovely Wifi...but cant. You see, Lenny has 'issues' and some of these issues wont be apparent until too late. anyway, a few choice quotes from some google searches and I am none the wiser. I know this Mac OSX seems to have some issues with Cisco Wireless kit in the LWAPP mode. Mac OSX seems to have some driver issues....especially since the same kit (Macbook Pro) running Vista has no wireless problems. hmm. however, a rather interesting log file from the RADIATOR release: "Improved compatibility with some EAP-TTLS clients that previously would have required EAPTTLS_NoAckRequired. Reported by Ian Forster." coupled with #This is added for Apple Macintosh Airport Extreme adapters EAPTTLS_NoAckRequired suggests that something more is afoot. so...how is MacOSX with you guys out there with FreeRADIUS? This 'issue with airport extreme' - is the code in FreeRADIUS also supporting of these ACK issues? the posse is closing these guys down. its only a matter of time. alan ("to kill a mockingbird" analogy next ;-) )