hi, this message is regarding the virtual_server definition in the clients section.... this allows you to point a client request directly to a virtual server. handy. okay - been trying to use this partially buried feature with clients in an SQL table if I add the special 'server' column (commented out in the schema by default) to the SQL table and then update the NAS query in dialup.conf (note, the server must be the last argument on the select query!) then add a named entry for a chosen client then its fine but, if I then query the server from a client that doesnt have a 'server' entry then it doesnt work..... this is what i get (all the startup stuff deleted) server { No such virtual server Invalid user: [testuser] (from client bigbox port 0) } # server Using Post-Auth-Type Reject No such virtual server Delaying reject of request 0 for 1 seconds Going to the next request Waking up in 0.9 seconds. Sending delayed reject for request 0 Sending Access-Reject of id 155 to 192.168.10.1 port 36684 Waking up in 4.9 seconds. if I go through and add 'default' to the virtual_server entry for all other clients then things still dont work - no such server : server default { No such virtual server default Invalid user: [testuser] (from client bigbox port 0) } # server default Using Post-Auth-Type Reject No such virtual server default Delaying reject of request 0 for 1 seconds Going to the next request Waking up in 0.9 seconds. Sending delayed reject for request 0 Sending Access-Reject of id 57 to 192.168.10.1 port 57991 Waking up in 4.9 seconds. but then if i add the 'server' wrapper around the sites-enabled/default ie server default { {rest of default server config } then it all works....this means that 2 presumptions are wrong: i thought that a blank virtual_server entry would be handled by default server i thought that the default server was known as 'default' i've obviously already been corrected by my trial and error...i'd rather not have been burned like this..but hey, we live and learn... but I am a little concerned by the 'no entry' failing - this means I have to edit a few more files to get things working as expected.... alan