On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 07:47:48AM +0200, Alan DeKok wrote: : You will need to put something like this in the "users" file: : :DEFAULT FreeRADIUS-Proxied-To == 127.0.0.1, Auth-Type := Kerberos : : :> Before I start pulling my hair out is even possible? : : Yes. IF the inner tunnel session contains a cleartext password. CHAP :won't work, and neither will MS-CHAP. Excellent, thanks also for your pointer to your page about eapol_test both for testing purposes and because the exaple had this critical line the got my client config right: phase2="auth=PAP" So now eapol_test and my linux wpa_supplicant laptop can connect either with LDAP/KRB5 users or users from the users file, that will get me through opening day Monday, and I might even beable to have the weekend off! Many Thanks, -Jon