if i just used the default in the attrs file to test our realms replies and pass them on upstream, i am confused on how to limit.. example my realm sends me a reply of Session-Timeout = 8400 tested against my attrs file, it is within range so it would be passed.. my attrs contains Session-Timeout <= 14400 now... if someone sends me a value above 14400 i am under the impression that the Session-Timeout reply would be dropped and none would be sent. I would like to, if the value is over, set the max value and send my reply instead of theirs still giving them the ability to send replies of less value to be passed.. i am confused how to do this. i am aware of the := operator which would substitute my value in place of whatever theirs is and pass it on, but how do I do a conditional in this file so I only do that if it is higher? -- Chuck "Windows?? You mean the thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition? Oh, that..." -- Lee Clarke