As the person starting the distribution thread by posting about having trouble with Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and FR 3.0.3 git version I certainly did not mean to start such a long thread. I encountered a problem and reported it, if I understood how to change the dependency in the debian package build stuff I would have happily done that. Since the thread went in the direction that it did I am in the process of upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04. Yeah I know it is bleeding edge, but since I am in the process of commissioning a new radius server I will have the opportunity to test it before I make it go live so decided why not. For the record I had no problem with the idea of building my own packages and that is exactly what I was trying to do when I encountered issues. For the limited number of radius servers I have it is really not a big deal having to do more manually on those machines, I was hoping to not need to install the build tools on all of the machines and just install the package. I will let everyone know how I fair with 14.04. I understand the desire for stability with LTS distributions which is part of the reason I started with that, however, I wanted to use a newer FR version than was available. I guess I wanted to have the best of both and it seems that I cannot do that. I am not really sure how staying in the same version number (1.0.1) with only a letter change is going to be less stable than bringing a patch for a bug back to an older version without an easily and reliable way to make sure the bug is fixed. If it was going from version 1.0.1 to version 3.0.1 yeah, I could see that being a problem. Now maybe OpenSSL's version numbering is insane in which case going from f to g might be that big of a change, but that becomes a problem with OpenSSL's version numbers. I do appreciate the efforts of those who have poured many hours of time into getting FR to where it is today. Michael