Hmmm, Trying out some options with the LDAP module today, namely the autoheader function. and I noticed the Auth-Type was no longer being set to LDAP, but instead to Crypt... mmm clever auto header function... Saves an ldap bind :) Just how is Auth-Type Crypt being processed ??? I know it's working , because when I enter an incorrect password it rejects the user... Commenting out all the Authentication modules doesn't seem to break it ... Are there now built in Authentication functions that don't need listing if certain Request attributes and check items are in place ? Or is this something weird thats going to go away soon ? -- Arran Cudbard-Bell (A.Cudbard-Bell@sussex.ac.uk) Authentication, Authorisation and Accounting Officer Infrastructure Services | ENG1 E1-1-08 University Of Sussex, Brighton EXT:01273 873900 | INT: 3900