Freeradius and Active directory (An aside)
Nicolas Goutte
nicolas.goutte at extragroup.de
Tue May 20 16:39:38 CEST 2008
Am 20.05.2008 um 16:20 schrieb Arran Cudbard-Bell:
> Dean, Barry wrote:
>> Alan DeKok said:
>>
>>
>>> It is impossible to use CHAP to authenticate to AD. You MUST use
>>> MS-CHAP, or PAP.
>>>
>>
>> When testing my Radius server with AD and XSupplicant I found that
>> EAP-TTLS with MD5 inner auth and EAP-MD5 as well as EAP-TTLS with
>> CHAP inner auth all failed.
>>
>> So you have explained why EAP-TTLS (CHAP) fails, thanks!
>>
>> So, is EAP-MD5 and EAP-TTLS (MD5) not possible also, or is my
>> Radius config broken?
>>
> EAP-MD5 won't work either...
>
> Ok the basic requirement for most Authentication schemes
> transferring the users credentials as a none reversible hash, is
> that the password is available RADIUS side as either a clear-text
> string, or as a reversible hash which can be transformed back into
> a clear-text string.
>
> I say most because there is of course a few exceptions, the most
> notable being MSCHAP & MSCHAPv2 which allow you to store the
> password directory side as an MD4 hash of the passphrase encoded as
> a 16bit unicode string (NT Password) or a LANMAN password (can't
> remember the encoding for that).
For those interested how the passwords are made, see the man page for
smbpasswd(5). e.g.: http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/
smbpasswd.5.html
>
> I believe that AD uses NT Password hashes, which is why PEAP just
> works out of the box with Microsoft IAS. So no MD5/ CHAP won't work
> with active directory. But PAP, MSCHAP/ MSCHAPv2 should all work
> just fine.
>
> Thanks,
> Arran
>
>
>> ---------------
>> Barry Dean
>> Networks Team
>>
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