Newbie question

[Jair Santos]

You might be right but my subject line should give you a clue about who  I
am. A complete beginner. I guess this list is not only for experts. I
already recognized  the huge amounts of effort you put into creating the
server and I really mean it.

I also recognize that you tried to help me , but Alan, just because someone
is an expert this doesn't mean that he/she have the right to criticize the
ones that are not.  I am here for help not to be criticized, and may be the
mistakes I made can help you to change things that will save you time when
other beginner arrives.

Anyway we are wasting our time and bandwidth. I am  going to try to figure
out then I'll be the only one to blame myself for my mistakes.


Jair Santos

 
 
 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> freeradius-users-bounces+jairds=shaw.ca at lists.freeradius.org 
> [mailto:freeradius-users-bounces+jairds=shaw.ca at lists.freeradi
us.org] On Behalf Of Alan DeKok
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: FreeRadius users mailing list
> Subject: Re: Newbie question
> 
> 
> Jair Santos wrote:
> > Please understand that when we, as users, go to  a site to 
> download  a 
> > program,  the site structure and distribution of information is 
> > completely new. We , (I)  try to understand it but we have 
> no time to 
> > read everything. I believe that this is normal and yes , we make 
> > mistakes. Don't you ?
> 
>   The difficulty is that there are 3-4 places where the 
> correct thing is documented.  You managed to miss them *all*. 
>  You read one thing on a page, and missed other things 
> written on the same page.
> 
>   This is actually pretty common.  I don't understand why it 
> happens, though.
> 
> > So please, don't try to give us (me) lessons about how to look for 
> > information. I am an old guy and I stiil need much more 
> time to learn  
> > new things . I don't need one more person to criticise my 
> mistakes or 
> > laziness to read a 200 pages web site in order to 
> understand the whole 
> > picture.
> 
>   Uh... no.  You read the page with the CVS instructions.  
> One page. You missed the text right above the CVS 
> instructions saying "see git.freeradius.org".
> 
>   It's about *us* putting huge amounts of effort into 
> creating the server, documenting it, and answering questions 
> on this list.  And yet... it's never enough.  No matter how 
> much documentation is written, some people still ignore it... 
> and get upset when told they're ignoring it.
> 
> > Yes I did click on the link 2.1.1 on the main web page. 
> That was the first
> > thing I did. These files didn't compile. It was  NOT 
> because   the linker on
> > my system chooses the wrong libs as you can see from the 
> log. There is 
> > another reason and I don't know it.
> > 
> > configure:21137: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -D_REENTRANT
> 
>   I'll call bait & switch on this one.  The ORIGINAL problem 
> you posted was from the output of "make", not "configure":
> 
> /usr/lib/libreadline.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
> 
>   i.e. it's a 32/64-bit problem.
> 
>   The output you posted from "configure" is different, and 
> meaningless.  Pretending it's the same problem is 
> disingenuous.  The "errors" are part of the tests configure 
> does to figure out which libraries are needed.  Part of the 
> tests involves *failed* compilations... so that it knows that 
> a particular combination of libraries didn't work.  And it 
> then tries other libraries.
> 
> > I am still trying to make this work and I thank very much 
> all of you 
> > who are helping me out.
> 
>   Another message in the same thread was from someone at 
> Redhat.  Who posted a link to pre-built RPM's for fedora.  
> Which includes 64-bit versions.
> 
>   If you had checked the link, you would have discovered 
> this.  Instead, you asked on the email list if the link 
> included a 64-bit version.
> 
>   And if you read the list, you know that I help a *lot* of 
> people here.  I'm also trying to help you.  Convincing you to 
> read the documentation I've already written is one of the 
> ways I can help you.  If this is too painful, feel free to 
> ignore all of my messages to the list.
> 
>   Alan DeKok.
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